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Following its 95th session, the UN Child Rights Committee (CRC) presents its findings Bulgaria, Congo, Lithuania, Russian Federation, Senegal and South Africa.


  • Ann Skelton, Chair, Committee on the Rights of the Child (CRC) 
  • Bragi Gudbrandsson, Vice-Chair, Committee on the Rights of the Child (CRC) 
  • Philip Jaffé, Member, Committee on the Rights of the Child (CRC)


Good afternoon, everyone.
Thank you for being with us today for
the UN Child Rights Committee's press conference.
Today, the committee is going to present their findings on six countries,
including Bulgaria, Congo, Lithuania, Russia, Federation,
Senegal and South Africa.
Joining us today we have Miss Anne Skelton, chair of the committee,
bred Gibson
Good Branson
and Mr Jaffe
from the committee.
And without further delay, I'll pass on the floor to Ms Skelton.
Thank you very much, Vivian.
the Committee on the Rights of the Child wrapped up its 95th session
at the end of last week.
And as you have heard, we've reviewed a number of countries during this time Congo,
Bulgaria, Senegal, Russia,
uh, Lithuania and South Africa.
Uh, those concluding observations will be made available on our website today. Um,
and of course, there's a lot of detail in them.
But what we're hoping to do now is to just give you the highlights
of what we have been covering.
But I should also just tell you that besides, uh, the review of state parties,
the committee also of course,
has an optional protocol on a communications procedure,
which means that we can receive individual
communications or complaints,
and we dealt with 10 cases on that during the session as well,
one of which dealt with a case against Paraguay.
And this was a case in which there had been immense
delays for a child whose mother was trying to establish,
maintenance payments.
But because of all the delays, this went on for years and years and years and the
he found that, uh, Paraguay had violated the rights of the child. In that instance,
another interesting case was one against Spain,
which dealt with the education of Children in
the enclave, uh, in in Spain.
Uh, and this is a child of a Moroccan nationality, uh, living in Spain,
but entitled under Spanish law to be able to access education.
Um, however, because she was somewhere over the age of compulsory education,
uh, the authorities felt that they were not obliged to find a place for her.
However, the committee found
that just because there's a compulsory age of education,
that doesn't mean
that the child is not entitled to education beyond that age
and so found a violation of the child's right in this instance.
So, um I think with regard to, uh,
one other really important thing that happened during this session,
and that is that we decided on the theme for our next general comment.
our last general comment was on Children's rights and
the environment with a special focus on climate change.
But our new general comment that we are starting to work on as from now is on access
to justice and remedies. Children's rights
to access to justice and remedies.
So we are going to be putting out a
call for contributions. A concept note that explains our general approach.
And we're looking forward to participation and engagement
with civil society and with states to get their feedback on this.
So that brings me to the end of the overview. And, Vivian, I'll hand back to you.
Thank you so and then we can start our presentation today for the Country Review.
First of all, we have Mr G
Branson on Russia and Bulgaria.
Thank you, madam. Very welcome to
the reporters at our present there. It's a great pleasure to see you.
I will first
go over Bulgaria
now you may perhaps know that there is
a certain structure in our recommendations to states.
We generally
appraise states for the thing that they are doing well
and then we focus on the shortcomings and where improvements should be made.
normally we identify six priority areas in each states that
urgent measures are needed for
with regard to
Bulgaria. These issues were non-discrimination
freedom of the child from all forms of violence.
Children deprived family, environment,
education, asylum seeking refugee and migrant Children
and child justice.
Now, with regard to the first one and on non discrimination,
that was, um
particularly with regard to
Children, disadvantaged situation, especially Roma Children
and Children living in poverty and Children with disabilities and Children,
residential care, asylum seeking and refugee Children.
These were the groups identified that measures needed to be taken
in order to improve their conditions.
Then it was
the cluster on violence.
There have been progress made in many respects in Bulgaria,
but what was we were basically concerned in the case of Bulgaria, as in so many cases,
it was particularly the sort of intervention in cases of violence and the
lack of child friendly intervention
in re traumatization of Children and particularly
with regard to the justice system,
lack of measures of multi sectoral and comprehensive interventions and
support to Children
that are or have been
victims of violence.
The family part.
We particularly we are happy with many of the developments in Bulgaria.
our concerns basically that the de
institutionalisation process has not been fast enough
and we highlighted the basic rule that
the state party should ensure that poverty,
disability or migration status should never be
the sole cause for placing a child in institution
education was also
one of the urgent measures that we
highlighted in, particularly in relation to quality of education at all levels,
the content of school curriculum
and inequalities in terms of access to education and educational
outcome, and finally,
the limited access to quality early education.
Now, with regard to asylum seeking Children,
we recommend that the state party
strengthen the quality of the asylum seeking
process, revises their
methods for age determination
and finally
regarding the justice system which was the
cluster in which we recommended that
the state needed to take urgent measure to
and that we
regarded in particular to settle by
diversion from criminal proceedings and ensuring
that it actively promotes non judicial measures such as diversion,
mediation and social psycho
Now, this was, uh,
Bulgaria. And I will then,
go over Russia.
I should say that the recommendations are normally about 45 paras
and sub
lots of subpar.
So we are talking about approximately 200 maybe 300
concerns and recommendations. So obviously one needs to
one is only touching the highlights
with regard to Russia. We were concerned about independent monitoring,
collaboration with civil society,
freedom of sex expression and access to information,
sexual exploitation and sexual abuse, education,
violation of Children's rights under the Convention in Ukraine
and violations of Children in Crimea and the city of
that are temporary under the Russian
Now, if I go very quickly over these items
first with regard to independent monitoring, we expressed our concern
about the lack of co ordination and monitoring
and in particularly the
allegations of war crimes perpetrated by
the Presidential Commissioner for Children's Rights.
This was highlighted
with regard to
collaboration with the civil society.
There were numerous concerns and recommendations,
the state party should repeal
its legislation declaring human rights organisations
and individuals, persons
as foreign agents
including also where recommendation to repeal decisions.
Declaring the LGBTI movement as extremist and repeal laws
that restrict the work of human rights defendants funders.
next topic was the issue of violence
there We were also concerned with the sort
of lack of intervention in child abuse cases
and lack of child friendly measures and child friendly procedures to deal with
child abuse,
lack of multi
sectoral and comprehensive interventions
which led to secondary victimisation.
And we
sort of highlighted, for example,
the case from the European Court of Human Rights a couple of years ago,
demonstrated the the
the sort of primitive nature of these intervention systems.
Now, in terms of the,
um, education and leisure,
um, we
were particularly concerned with the
politicisation and militarization of schools.
we recommended to the state that it should ensure that education is aimed at
preparation for the child for responsible life
and free society and spirit of understanding,
peace, tolerance,
equality of sexes and friendship.
addressed the attempts to rewrite school curriculum and textbooks to
reflect the political and military agenda of the government,
and there are more recommendations there
that were addressed.
finally I will
go with the major aspects of the violations we believe that the Russian Federation
has committed with regard to the convention and the
attack on Ukraine, the war in Ukraine
there we highlighted the killings and injuries of hundreds of Children as
a result of indiscriminate attacks on the state party with explosive weapons.
We highlighted the issue of forcible transfer,
enforceable deported Children
by the state from Ukraine.
We highlighted the
measures that Russia has taken,
including the presidential decree from January 24th,
providing Russian citizenship to forcibly transfer or deport the Children
under the simplified procedure.
And we highlighted the
fact that there are evidence that suggests that
Children are deprived of the Ukrainian nationality in
violation of the rights of the child.
There were reports of sexual violence against Children
perpetrated during the state party occupation in Ukraine,
arbitrary detention,
ill treatment and torture Children by the
Russian authorities in the occupied Ukrainian territory,
attacks on hospitals, schools and educational establishment,
and enforcing Russian curricula and military
training in schools in Ukraine territory.
And the
committee men makes them
recommendations or measures to the state party
This also is a specific section on
Crimea region
and the
where we recommend the
the State Party to
carry out effective or thorough impartial investigation into all
reported cases of arbitrary detention
and prosecution,
intimidation and harassment,
and threats and
Reprisals against Children.
Secondly, the rights
to peaceful assembly and freedom of expression
and opinion association thought,
and conscience and religion can be exercised by all Children in the Crimea
and finally to adopt and implement measures
to ensure the availability of education at
all levels in the mother tongue of ethnic groups and indigenous peoples in Crimea
and ensure the availability of education in the Ukrainian language.
So these are the sort of
highlights of the recommendations or the topics
of the government of the committee's
recommendations to the Russian Federation. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Gu
Branson. Now may I have Mr Jeffer to talk about South Africa and Senegal? Thank you.
Yes. Hello, everyone.
Um so first to South Africa,
which is an important country regionally and internationally,
which has made great strides
regarding Children's rights and to simplify my presentation,
I'll just highlight three buckets of issues that were flagged
under different forms in our concluding observations.
First, we think that Children should be more visible within the,
um, framework or national framework
that is being prepared, uh, for the coming years.
Another aspect of visibility is
by, um, contrarian sort of perspective,
the lack of data on crucial issues that can be significantly improved.
Also, the lack of, um,
participation and, um,
volume of, uh, budget dedicated to Children.
we also highlighted a range of issues that don't ask for a lot of major developments
very high level, uh, and prevalence of child poverty.
Um, which
obviously cascade into so many different problems.
Uh, throughout the life course of Children, health, mental health, family,
and much more.
We also highlighted violence against Children, uh, in all settings,
despite clear, uh, legal prohibitions in most instances
and in particular, gender-based violence.
Also, uh,
a concern about Children living in institutional care
and the lack of monitoring of these facilities.
Uh, we also on a positive side, noted that South Africa has,
uh, great models regarding child participation.
But this requires, uh, that these practises be enhanced
in, uh, all provinces and at a national level,
uh, skipping to Senegal. Um,
we um, examined, uh, Senegal, But also two optional protocols. Uh,
um, on, uh, Children involvement in armed conflict, and, uh, Children in
the sale of Children, child
prostitution and child pornography.
I won't say much about that, but, um, first of all, let me couch my remarks, Um,
in the context of the current political turbulence underway in Senegal, and
the committee hopes that the effects
of this, uh turbulence
will be minimal on, uh, the the lives of Children who,
as we noted in our concluding observations, already have a lot to contend with.
So front and centre is the committee's concern. And I have to say puzzlement
that, uh,
the revision of Senegal's Children's code has been in revision for 10 years,
and there seems to be no indication that there's an end in sight.
And we pushed the state party to
address this, uh, for, uh, urgently.
Another significant concern is the lack of data on a whole range of issues. And
beyond that, the lack of coordinations where there is data
and, uh, in particular,
we the committee flagged the issue of violence against Children in all its forms,
which is
I would qualify. We qualify
um, not necessarily in the concluding observations, but here as endemic.
the reports are very concerning regarding violence against Children
in Quranic schools and so-called tally Bay Children.
Another concern is the high number of girls subject to female genital mutilation,
Um, as well as early enforced marriages. And I'll end with that.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Jeffer.
Now I'm passing on the call to Ms Skelton again on the other two countries. Thank you.
Thank you, Vivian.
I'll begin with the Congo, and, uh,
pick up on just a very similar point to the one that my colleague Philip Jaffe made.
I think the high line issue for for
Congo was also these harmful cultural practises that,
are persistent.
Even though there's been law reform on the ground, not much changes.
So we see that there is still child marriage,
and it's a commonly accepted practise.
Um, and, uh, it's not fully banned by law.
Female genital mutilation.
Um, among some West African communities living in Congo,
um is still happening.
And, um,
there is also physical marking for tribe identification on Children's bodies,
including branding,
and there are body modifications and
imposed dietary restrictions on pregnant girls.
So pregnant girls are not allowed to eat certain things.
So obviously, the committee
honed in on this and said, Look,
we really need you to now come up with not just the legal responses to this,
but what are you doing
to change this on the ground? How are you going to persuade
the public to really make these changes in society?
And you've got to, you know,
set that minimum age for marriage at 18 for girls and boys and stick to it.
Don't have exceptions to it.
Um and it must be, uh, you know,
you've got to create awareness at the at the level of the ordinary
people about why practises such as female genital mutilation are not acceptable.
Um, so, uh, moving over to Lithuania, Lithuania,
we we found many positive developments that the country is doing quite well.
It's changed a lot of its laws and
policies, and it's made a lot of structural changes,
and it has some specialised services for Children.
Um, of course, there's always room for improvement.
But let me hone in here on what we did find to be very problematic.
And that was the treatment of asylum seeking Children,
We found that it is still both legally permitted to detain
unaccompanied and separated Children as well as it is.
It is happening in practise, including detention at the border.
And there's a lot of pushbacks happening in Lithuania,
where Children are not able to actually come in
and make their claims and make applications for asylum.
They are stopped in their tracks before they can even get that far and pushed back.
So what we said about all of this was is you've got to stop detaining Children,
child migrants.
They are not criminals.
You've got to find other solutions to this.
And we also made it clear that
every child has to be given the opportunity to make an application for asylum.
They should be provided with legal aid.
They should be given opportunities to, um, appeal decisions that are made so that,
um, you know each child gets a proper individualised
assessment or determination.
So, Vivian, as I have the floor, shall I just move straight to making my statement on
So as the chairperson of the committee,
I want to make this statement on behalf of the Committee on the Rights of the child.
No child should grow up in fear, pain
and hunger.
Yet today,
no child in Gaza is free
from fear,
pain and hunger.
In fact,
they'll be considered lucky if they can even survive
this war and have the chance to grow up.
According to the latest UN figures, 27,585 Palestinians have been killed
and 66,978 injured
since the seventh of October last year.
More than 7000 are estimated to be buried under rubble,
raising the total number of casualties to more than 100,000 people.
And as we all know,
many of them
are Children.
Some of them have lost their lives, but others have lost their limbs.
Their parents,
and friends.
All Children living in the Gaza Strip
have lost their childhood.
They are traumatised
and will forever live with a permanent impact on their mental health.
More than 10 Children per day, on average, have lost one or both legs
in Gaza since the conflict erupted four months ago.
According to Save the Children,
that is the figure,
and UNICEF estimates that at least 17,000 Children
are unaccompanied or separated from their parents,
and almost all of Gaza's 1.2 million Children
are in need of mental health and psychosocial support.
These Children also need attention and action from the international community.
The ruling of the International Court of Justice on the 26th of January 2024
found that South Africa's claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza
to be plausible
and ordered Israel
and I'm going to quote to take all measures within its power
to prevent the Commission of all acts within the scope of Article two
of the convention, including killing members of the group,
to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide
and to enable the provision
of humanitarian assistance.
The committee again
urgently appeals for an immediate ceasefire,
the delivery of urgent humanitarian aid
and the immediate release of all hostages,
in particular Children and their caregivers.
this regard,
we echo the grave concern about the fate of hostages expressed by the International
Court of Justice,
and we echo also its call for their immediate and unconditional release
in view of the colossal humanitarian needs faced by
more than 2 million people in the Gaza enclave.
The committee urges all donor states who have
suspended their funding or future funding to U NRW
to reconsider their decision immediately and
provide sufficient funds to ensure that all
urgent aid can be provided to all to each and every child.
we call for massive psychosocial support to Children and families
to relieve the traumatic and long lasting impact of war,
including Israeli Children that were victims of or witnesses to the attacks
and those whose family members have been taken hostage.
We also emphasise our grave concern about the
situation of Children living in the West Bank,
including east Jerusalem, who are facing arbitrary arrests,
extrajudicial killing and violence committed by occupying forces and settlers.
We call upon the State of Israel to immediately comply
with the ruling of the International Court of Justice.
We also call on all states to take action
to end the conflict
by establishing an immediate ceasefire,
resuming peace negotiations and restoring funding to UN
R A without delay.
The state of Israel was on the list of states to be reviewed during this session,
so the Committee on the Rights of the Child was to have reviewed Israel
But unfortunately,
the Israeli government decided to postpone its participation.
The committee deeply regrets that it did not have the opportunity to review Israel.
When time is of the essence,
the rights of Children living under the
state of Israel's effective control are being
gravely violated at a level that has rarely been seen in recent recent history.
We look forward to an interactive dialogue with the state delegation from Israel,
which is now scheduled for the committee's September session.
In the meantime,
the committee will send Israel an additional list
of issues on the situation of Children in Israel
and the occupied Palestinian
territory since the seventh of October 2023.
Thank you.
Thank you, Miss
Now we open the floor to question
Yes. Um, Gabriela, you have the first question from Reuters.
I'm sorry.
Um, thank you very much. Um, I have a question. Probably for the chair or for Mr Gudrun
regarding Russia.
In your report, you issue a recommendation
to end immediately the enforced disappearances of Ukrainian Children from
occupied regions of of the Ukraine to Russia.
Yet the country perpetrating this does not recognise that this is even happening.
Uh, it's It's beyond the denial. Uh, how do you engage with a country
doesn't even deny but doesn't even recognise that this is taking place? Thank you.
It's, um yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that question. Now,
when we monitor states,
we receive information from various sources,
including civil societies, other states and
human rights institutions, et cetera, et cetera.
With regard to Russia, um,
it is true, we we received, um,
information about
forceful and, um, deportation of at least 20 thou 1000 or just under 20,000
to Russia
from the Ukrainian government.
And there were also other sources that indicated that this had taken place.
it was difficult to
evaluate the exact numbers of Children,
Russia denied this.
However, they, um,
um submitted the information that 700,000 Children
fled to Russia.
Um, to save safety, let's say,
defined it.
Now, we, um,
are in the position that we need to assess the information
and the evidence that have been presented.
And it is our conclusion that there are evidence
of forceful transfer of Children from Ukraine to Russia.
We cannot
identify the number of these Children, but we know
that there are many,
and we can.
What supports this
is the actual
measures that Russia has taken
simplify procedures, to acquire Russian citizenship
and to place Children in care with Russian families,
including the ombudsman for Children.
So we think there is a very valid reason to make the recommendations that we do
to Russia. This is against the,
um, many
international convention,
Um, and for the for first and foremost,
we are referring here to the Convention on the Rights of the Child
and the obligation in article 31 38 1
the obligation which states in
situations of armed conflict.
I hope that explains your
I just want to make one clarification. And that is that
the the
Russian Federation delegation said that 7000 Children
had been, um,
evacuated was the the term that they used. So we were.
We found often in the dialogue that we were using
one type of terminology and they were using another.
So we were There was some talking past one another, one could say,
and another similar talking past one another was on
the issue of fostering Children or adopting Children.
So we were saying, using the word adoption,
and they were denying that it's adoption and talking about
foster fostering Children.
Um, but on the other hand,
they also acknowledge that there were a lot
of Children who were being given Russian citizenship,
which would also in itself be, um, in a sense,
meaning that these Children were losing their
their identity and being given a Russian identity.
Um, so So there was There was definitely a lot of, um,
terminology was often, uh,
being played in a way that made it difficult to have a completely
clear conversation.
Um, we have a second question from a P. Jamie, please.
Thank you very much. Um,
based on the fact that you mentioned that, uh,
the you you appear to be talking past one another
and the fact that Russia appears to be pressing a military and
political agenda in schools and is saying that they're not deportations.
How likely do you think it is that Moscow
The Russian government will actually adhere to all
of these calls that you're making today,
um, based on their track record, both in the hearing and and elsewhere.
And what kind of pressure or encouragement? Let's say,
should be um, uh,
exerted by the international community to try to bring Russia around.
Thank you.
Let me start on this one.
I think as far as the politicisation and militarization of schools, for example,
this is something that we we've driven
home quite hard in our concluding observations.
We consider it
to be a very big risk for for the future of
these Children who are going to who are being indoctrinated.
So, um,
with respect to your question as to well, will this make a difference? Will,
you know, will the Russian Federation actually carry out these recommendations?
I see it as a positive
event that the delegation came and that we engaged for six hours,
six hours of dialogue with them.
Um, and and this means I think at least that, uh,
the conversation has been had
and that
many of the points that were made during that dialogue are are taken home.
in the minds of people,
um, of course, it's true that in order to really, uh, ensure that
the recommendations are acted upon will also require,
uh, others trying to hold Russia accountable.
Um, and, um
and that is something that the international community
will have to continue to do using,
you know, other, um, human rights mechanisms that exist.
Um, but as far as we're concerned, we, um We deliver these recommendations, and we,
and we hope
that they will be taken seriously and acted upon
very briefly,
um, to to I. I completely agree. With what? The chair. Um, uh,
expressed, uh, but you also have to take into account.
that, uh, our dialogue with the State
for Russian Federation was on Web TV.
And, uh, we've I have heard, and several of my colleagues have heard that
there had been great interest on the ground
in Russia and beyond, uh, with regard to that exchange with the Russian government.
So it's just to say that the exchange
and just putting it out there
is an element that can be used. And,
and, uh, help, um,
push forward the recommendations that we're expressing.
But then again, as you can imagine, there are a lot of challenges that most bodies,
uh, meet uh,
with regard to the Russian government's positions.
try me
up to this, uh,
the very fact that Russia came
and engaged in a constructive dialogue in the sense that the
dialogue was, for the most part, technical
and substantive in nature.
think that's an achievement in itself.
Of course, we do not know what will. They will take home with them.
But it was interesting that in the very end
the head of the delegation,
he explicitly said that
they would take back
what would that suited them.
But, um,
we're not really bothered about the issues that
they thought were
And it was, of course, a clear message to them that
they didn't particularly like many of the
comments that we made in the dialogue, and we sort of didn't expect that to happen.
But I, I think it's an important exercise and
worth the
Thank you.
Do we have any follow up questions from the room?
If not, we can take a question from online. We have Lisa from Voice of America.
Lisa, please.
Uh, yes. Thank you, Vivian. Um, yes. Hello,
Panel. I would, uh
uh hm. Let's see.
Uh, how large? Uh uh, could you be specific about the recommendations that you gave?
I mean to highlight the most important ones. Like
have you have you told Russia to
retransfer send back the Children that they have
forcibly transferred to Russia back to their homes.
if you could highlight some of the most important recommendations and, uh,
apparently I gather from you that, uh, they have, uh,
essentially said that they wouldn't follow them. So you do you have any sanctions? A
question was asked as to what sort of pressure there was on Russia.
Perhaps there is none.
Uh, And how large was the delegation?
The dialogue that you had with the Russia on,
uh, on the web Was that only in regard to this particular issue or also
other issues, or did Ma most of the,
uh, examination occur face to face? Um,
yeah. And then maybe a follow up on that. Thank you.
Now, all our dialogue was face to face. There was nothing
And, uh, with regard to the question on our
recommendations, I can safely say that they were,
uh, very concrete.
And on the topic you specifically asked about,
that was among the
topics I mentioned in my
And I can read out exactly the the the power
that relates to your specific questions. about the transferred
forcibly transferred Children.
We asked to provide information about the precise number of Children
taken from Ukraine
and about the whereabouts of each child.
So as parents or other legal representatives
can track them,
including through identification of such Children
and registration of their parentage,
and ensure that Children are returned to their
families and communities as soon as possible.
So this was a specific recommendation on on the what you asked about. But there are,
as I said earlier, a number of others, and they are all very concrete.
I hope this
answers your concern
if I can just add, um, on the size of the delegation, it was a a large delegation.
There were four deputy ministers in the,
uh, delegation,
Um, and just to clarify, uh, everybody was in the room.
So it was It was not online in that sense, but it was
live on UN Web TV
the full six hours.
Thank you. And then we have another question from, um Geneva solution.
we can't hear you. Can you, um unmute yourself?
Kasmira is unmuted,
but we cannot hear her.
I'm afraid we still can't hear you.
Ok, sorry. Maybe You can type your question if you can unmute yourself,
Or meanwhile,
Do we have another question from the floor from the room or from online?
Lisa, please. Go ahead.
Voice of America. Follow up.
Um uh, on a somewhat different subject,
I'd like you to elaborate a bit upon the situation of
the LGBT Q. I, uh, Children,
Uh, what were your recommendations there? I mean, what what? I?
I guess what I'd like to know is you had a lot of concerns, and I'm wondering,
in general,
were there any topics that, uh, the Russian delegation took,
uh, seriously, did you get the sense that
they would, in fact,
uh uh, implement some of the recommendations on some of the topics that they have?
I guess generally what I'd like to know is it,
uh, good to be a child
in Russia?
Oh, sorry. Um, yes. Thank you for this question.
on your question, is it good to be a child in Russia?
Well, um,
don't think I can answer that, nor the committee,
but we are concerned about the perception of Children in Russia.
We are concerned that they are not seen as
independent rights
that they are right holders.
And, uh, perhaps if there is an underlying,
uh, concept in our recommendation, it
it can be, um,
said to be embodied in this, uh,
with regard to the L
recommendation is quite clear.
Repeal decisions declaring L
LGBT movements as extremist
and repeal laws that restrict the work of human rights defenders
defending the rights of LGBT persons.
So it's very
it's not a long essay. It is very clear,
whether Russia will act on this
Well, that's a course for speculation. I do not prefer to do so
on whether Russia,
the Russian Federation might act on anything.
Um, I'm not sure whether they will act on this,
but I can tell you that what we said to
them when they were leaving is that they've introduced some lessons
called, um, lessons about important things.
And they've been teaching Children, for example,
about weapons in these lessons on important things.
But they also said, Look,
we've been teaching them about lots of different
things in these lessons of important things.
And so we said to them
that perhaps they should, uh,
have a lesson about important things that focuses on
the UN convention on the rights of the child.
And that explains what the committee has recommended to Russian
Federation with regard to the rights of the child.
Um and so we would hope that they would do that so that the, uh,
the convention becomes better known in Russia
and so that Children know what the international
community has said that Russia should be doing
in in respect of their rights,
whether or not that will be done. I don't know, but I'd like to repeat the call.
Thank you, Ms
Kelton. And then I can see Lisa still wants to have a follow up question,
please. Lisa?
Yeah, Just a quick one. I was wondering what happens next. Uh,
do they have to respond to your recommendations, and if so, when When is the, uh,
next interaction that you have with them? Thank you.
Um, look, they were given the opportunity to fact check, but over and above that
this is a cycle. So the idea is it's not an event when the country comes to Geneva to, um
to deliver their report and to be engaged in this dialogue.
It's just one point in a cycle
of monitoring we are monitoring.
And in between the visits to Geneva, which is once every five years,
the state party should be carrying out those recommendations.
Um, and of course,
it's also possible for these recommendations to be followed
up in other processes such as the U PR.
So, um, states who are following an act being active in the U PR
could use our recommendations there and reiterate them to to the government.
Um and, um, special rapporteurs might take up some of the issues.
So it's It's part of a more holistic monitoring process,
even though it's only once every five years that the
state party will come and engage with us in Geneva.
Thank you, madam Chair. And, uh, I don't see any more question.
Would you like to say a few words to wrap it up or you want to end it here?
Thank you very much for your interest in our work. I think we can leave it here.
Thank you, Vivian.
So the press conference has come to an end. Um,
the CRC next two session will be in May and September this year,
so hopefully we can see you after all those reviews.
Have a good evening. Afternoon. Thank you.
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