UNRWA - Press Conference - 16 November 2023
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UNRWA - Press Conference - 16 November 2023

Speaker:  

  • Philippe Lazzarini, UNRWA Commissioner-General
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[Other language spoken]
Welcome to this press conference by Philippe Lazzarini, the Commissioner General of UNRWA.
As usual, we will listen to Commissioner General 1st and then we will open the floor to questions.
Thank you very much.
You have the floor, Commissioner General.
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Thank you so much and thank you for being here.
I just ended the briefing with the Member States this afternoon and I felt it was maybe important to share with you some of the messages I shared with the Member States.
Basically, and I would start with a statement, but it has been almost six week of **** for the people of Gaza, 6 week far too many for the Palestinian, for the woman, for the children, six week far too long for the Israeli hostage and the family and far too long for the entire region.
It has also been six week of total disregard for international humanitarian law.
I have to say the scale of destruction and loss is just staggering.
And this is taking place under a watch.
We have just witnessed over the last few weeks the largest displacement of Palestinian since 1948.
It's an exodus under a watch, a river of people being forced to flee their home.
Some of them were forced to relieve the unlivable trauma from the past, mostly unhealed, and others, the younger generation, were forced to live through traumas of ancestor and parents.
This week our team reported people arriving after hours and hours of walking, basically coming from the north of Gaza, Gaza City to the South.
They were degraded, hungry, exhausted and shell shocked.
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Unlike in other global conflict in recent year, the people of Gaza are trapped in a fur 365 square kilometre enclave with no way out, with no border to be crossed and this enclave has just shrunk by half.
Many continue to flock to Anwar Shelter where we are hosting more than 800,000 people.
I went recently to one of the shelter.
What I saw there will never leave me.
I was shocked by the tragic and sudden transformation of a place I knew very well.
I knew for more than 30 years until recently, and I know sometimes it's hard to believe, but many people in Gaza, many of them were living like you and I, with the same kind of dreams, same kind of aspiration for their children, but all of suddenly in one night, their dignity has been stripped.
When I was in this school, the children were pleading for a sip of water or for a loaf of bread.
And they were doing this in the same school where many of them used to get teaching and education.
Then, you know, we keep talking about the unsanitary living condition in this overcrowded shelter.
When I talked to my colleagues and tried to understand, I mean, first we see it because there is almost no water in places where you have thousands of people.
But then these are places which were never aimed to be shelter.
So basically you're in a situation where not only water is not present, but you have maybe one toilet available for 7-8 hundred people.
That the kind of living condition.
In top of that, most of the people left their home at the last minute.
They're left with without anything and many of them basically do not have even the clothes to change their clothes after six weeks.
That's what we're talking when we talk about, you know, people having lost their dignity, I mean, have been stripped from their dignity now.
No, no doubt that I mean this kind of rapid deterioration bring us back to a kind of a mediaeval age.
I mean the siege that we see, we know is a collective punishment imposed to an entire population.
Now, maybe let me give some of the latest issue of concern for us, but also few issues where I would like to address some misunderstanding or mis.
I would say information depending on the first one, where I want to be clear and repeat, I said it.
There is nowhere safe in Gaza, whether in the north, in the South, in the middle, there is none.
People have been asked to go from the north to the South, but in reality 111 third of the people killed have been killed in the South.
So the South is not safe.
Even the UN compounds are not safe.
Up to 60 of them have been hit since the beginning of the conflict.
We had more than 60 people now killed.
We had hundreds of people injured.
There is no safe place.
I'm saying this because you aren't certain.
Yesterday Martin Griffiths talking about the safe zone or humanitarian zone.
Basically, in a war situation there is no such safe zone or human turn zone where people could feel safe.
Secondly, we have at least hundred 300 colleagues who have been killed.
This is the number we are able to confirm.
The reality is we might have more people who have been killed, and I'm worried that some of them are still under the rubble.
These were Onward colleagues.
They had absolutely nothing to do with the conflict per SE.
They were civil servant of the United Nation, dedicated to serving the community.
And they have now been killed.
I know that last Monday in Geneva, like across the world, the United Nations declare half mast to remember them, but we did it everywhere except in Gaza, where basically our colleagues felt very strongly that the best way to honour them is through a message that we will continue and maintain our event and response in the Gaza Strip.
Thirdly, because there have been again number of article, I want to make it clear again UNRWA does not teach hatred in its school.
Over the past few weeks and amid the sea of emotions, a targeted and orchestrated campaign was launched against our education system, which in reality is recognised for its excellence.
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UNRWA ****** claims linking its personal and school to to the abhorrent October 7th attack in Israel, attacks that UNRWA has condemned in the strongest term and which I will always continue to condemn.
I question the motivation of those who make such claim through large advocacy campaign, especially under this current circumstances.
I've always been clear on this unwise committed to upholding UN humanitarian principle and we have absolutely no 0 tolerance.
We we we have a 0 tolerance for hate speech, racism and incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence.
I acknowledge that we are operating in a very emotional divided environment, that the environment has risk, but as the UN, when it comes to this, we apply the no tolerance policy.
4th the question of diversion, UNWA does not let it be diverted.
First of all, we are an agency would directly implement its programme.
We do not have any intermediary.
Secondly, whenever we work with suppliers, they are systematically checked against sanction list.
Thirdly, we also all our staff on a yearly basis, it's the the name are communicated to the host country and when it comes to occupied Palestinian territory, also to the occupying state being Israel.
In reality, we are certainly one of the most scrutinised organisation.
I experience this usually when I travel in the capitals, whenever we go to a parliament.
Most of the question about international aid are in reality directed to UNWAR.
Thirdly, 5th UNWAR is now running out of fuel.
We will not be able to uphold our commitment to provide for the Palestinian people any longer.
I do believe there is a deliberate attempt to strangle our operation and paradise, the UNWA operation for weeks on end.
We have pleaded and I have pleaded.
3 weeks ago I had a press conference already warning about the impact of the lack of fuel.
We have succeeded over the last three weeks to tap into the remaining fuel into Gaza Strip, which was not over fuel and which we always coordinated with the Israeli authorities.
But now we are running out and yesterday we received a tiny shipment of fuel in reality half a truck.
And in top of that it was delivered with conditionalities, meaning where this to be used only and exclusively for for the trucks collecting the goods arriving at the Rafah.
Which means this shown cannot be used for any other purposes.
Which means that the fuel is not available anymore for for example, the the the the Desalina Tion water station, for example, the sewage pumping system or for the bakeries.
And as from yesterday, 70% of the population in the in the South has no access anymore to clean water.
And as of today, we have row sewage starting to flow in the streets.
So without the fuel, we will not be able to bring the relief that we are receiving from Egypt to the people in need.
And clearly, if the issue of the fuel is not addressed, we run the risk to have to suspend the entire humanitarian operation.
I do believe that it is outrageous that humanitarian agencies are reduced to begging for fuel and forced after that to decide who we will assist or not assist when you have such a large population in a situation of lifesaving.
Another point I want to raise is the fact that UN facilities have been violated over the last six weeks quite regularly.
I mentioned before the premises sheltering displaced people, but I would like also to tell you that over the last few days I received report that several of our own schools have been used for military purposes, including a recent discovery of weapons in schools and including the positioning of Israeli forces tank in at least two UN schools.
I reiterate here that UN facilities must never be used for military purposes or political gains and control.
This is precisely the meaning of the UN flag.
Before I conclude, just let me and I think it's important to always remember the situation in the West Bank.
We should not forget the plight of the Palestinian in Jerusalem and in the West Bank.
Long before October 7th massacre there were a lot of violence, mainly in the refugee camps.
But today, today we have recorded since the beginning of the year more than 400 people killed, which is nearly three times of last year.
And last year was already the highest number of people killed in record since 2005.
I just came back from a visit before coming here in Choufat camp in East Jerusalem, where staff basically told me how they are living in constant fear and worry amid the the the Israeli forces operation.
And just after I left the Choufat camp, the school I visited had to evacuate again with 600 girls and boys because of such an operation.
So maybe in conclusion, just before taking a question again, reiterate our ask.
A ceasefire now is urgently needed if we want to save whatever is left of our humanity.
In fact, that it is a long overdue, I'm just receiving the information now that Gaza is again in a total communication blackout.
And if it is in a total communication blackout, it's because there is no fuel.
So we know and I told to the Member State, no fuel, no bakery, no fuel, no hospital, no fuel, no water, and here no fuel, no communication.
And no communication is also amplifying the anxiety and the panic and is also accelerating the last remaining civilian order that we have in the Gaza Strip.
So first we need a ceasefire.
We need fuel, fuel and fuel.
I expect a decision to be a decision should have been taken long time ago, but the more we wait, the more we will see.
Now the seeds taking over and become could become the main reason why people would die and be killed into Gaza Strip.
And the last point, when we talk about unhinder, unconditional and meaningful access of commodities in the Gaza striper, it's not only and just for humanitarian assistance, it's also to make sure that basic commodities be available on the market.
And for that, we need also a flow of commercial movement in the Gaza Strip.
I think I will stop here.
I really need to take questions.
Thank you very.
Much, Thank you very much, Commissioner General.
Yes, I, I see quite a few of them.
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I'll, I think Christian was the first one to raise their hand.
So Christian Erich DPA, the German news agency.
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Commissioner, you know the Gaza area very well, You said for 20 years.
Do you have sympathy for the Israelis who are saying that Hamas fighters are hiding in schools and hospitals?
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Know from your long experience.
Where the Hamas people are actually operating?
Do you see that there are some merit in what the Israelis are saying, that even amongst the ID PS that are moving S, there are actually Hamas fighters that need to be dealt with?
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First of all, despite the fact that I go in and out in Gaza for 30 years, I do not know how Hamas is militarily operating.
I've never been in Gaza to find out how they operate or not operate.
I was always in Gaza in different capacity, Red Cross in the past, OTSA later on and now has a commissioner general of Anwar and always focusing on the civil Society of the Gaza striper which is a which has been a very vibrant one until now.
Now when I hear report that people could be taken as human shield, of course it outrage me.
Coming from the Hamas, coming from any other faction, the use of civilian for human shield is just prescribed by IHN.
But here what would I would like maybe to mention we, we operate in an extraordinary divided with raw emotion of both in Israel, in Palestine, in the occupied Palestinian territories and also in the region.
And in my meeting before, but in most of the meetings in which I am, I am cautioning about the danger of having a yarkee of empathy.
I feel the pain for the families and the hostage family of the victim and the hostages will have been taken on the 7th of October.
And there is absolutely no, no, no, no doubt that it has to be condemned with the strongest matter.
It's, you know, some people talk about wanting the war crime or whatever, but that cannot be.
And we have to express our empathy and compassion.
But I'm trying to say also, it's equally when you see that more than 10,000 people have been killed in the Gaza Strip, that more than 4000 children have been killed in one month, they deserve the same empathy.
Because if we start to make a yarke, I think it's the beginning of the end.
We are entering into an extraordinary divided wall, hardly where we accept darkness can prevail in some areas and other not.
I have been appalled during the last 30 years to see also some of the dehumanisation process which has taken place and one of them and they will stop here because obviously I could elaborate longer.
When there was the first time in Gaza, it was at the time of the first intifada.
In every families you had people speaking in Hebrew and the Israeli war in Gaza was speaking Arabic.
They knew each other, they had real human relation.
Since 2005 Gaza strips started to be sealed off and today you will not find anymore a person below the age of 55 or 60 speaking Hebrew.
A young person in Gaza who many, maybe 40% of the population was born since Hamas took over, would never have seen an Israeli and vice versa, an Israeli would never have seen a Gazan.
And here I do believe there is something to be done.
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Mina Larson, AFP Thank you for taking my question.
I was wondering if you could clarify, you mentioned that you're worried about perhaps deliberate attempts to to strangle your operations in Gaza.
If you could say if you are specifically saying that this is being done by the Israelis, if it with in connection with the fuel.
I was also wondering in terms of the fuel whether you could say if you run out the specific consequences that that that would have for people living in Gaza.
And sorry, one last question, which would be on the schools.
That just also a clarification there.
You mentioned that weapons have been found that there are military operations in the schools.
If you could also say who's you mentioned Israelis, have you have weapons been found that have been linked to Hamas as well?
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To on, on, on the fuel from day one, we call for the fuel from day one.
We know exactly what we need.
We have the breakdown of the quantity of fuel each of our partners that we are supporting need.
We have been able, since we raised the alarm, to exhaust or deplete all the possible remaining fuel identified in the Gaza Strip.
At that time of Vietnam, the Anwar already had no, no, no fuel.
But we identified some other abilities.
We negotiated the access.
We have used this for today.
We are in a situation where the water station cannot function anymore.
The generator in the shelter where we are sheltering, so many people do not function, which means we cannot use the water well anymore because of the lack of fuel.
We will not be able to send out trucks across the South or across the Gaza stripper to the very shelter where we have people waiting for human turn delivery.
And then you have covered also extremely well the situation in the hospital as of yesterday.
We have now the first story emerging saying municipal services cannot make their generator function anymore, hence the sewage now is looking on the street and now we just learned about the communication system.
And then the next impact will also be that no cash, no money will be made available because even an ATM machine needs fuel and generator.
So the impact of this started now to be felt 70% other people have no access to clean water.
That was not the case when we called the operator with the Desalina tion and with the water station and provide fuel to the to the shelter.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm being told that we start now to be worried about the emergence of waterborne disease and already we have 30 to 40% of the people living in our shelters who are showing some skin problem because of the hygiene condition.
So that's what we are talking about.
Now if we wait more, we will not even be able to collect the, the convoys and the goods in Rafa.
We will not be able to distribute it.
So basically the entire architecture of the Hummington response is at stake.
Now, who is responsible?
Is responsible anyone who does not do whatever is needed to make it available.
I mean, yes, that decision which needs to be taken by the government of Israel to authorise the fuel to come in.
We have heard from time to time that fuel can come in under a certain number of a condition.
The problem when we talk about life saving, life saving should not be subject of a condition or bargaining today.
What we are saying is if the fuel does not come in, people will start to die because of the lack of stir.
Now exactly as from when I don't know, but it will be rather soon than later.
On the second question about military operation, I have received or heard reports and allegation, again, I'm not in a position to confirm it that in the military in the north where we have a ground military operation that reportedly they might have been weapon found in schools.
And reportedly also we heard through social media that they have been also Israeli military forces positioning in UN compound.
What I'm saying here is whoever, whether to bring weapon or to use it as a military base, this is the use of United Nation premises.
It's a blatant violation to enter and to use it for military purposes.
And it also endanger our colleagues on the ground that if it is accepted to take place even in places where we have no access anymore, what does it mean in the future for our colleagues in the South?
That's what I'm saying at this stage based on information available, if this information are are correct, it needs to be pushed back and condemned.
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Think I think there was there.
Was the third question just on this I I spoke about the school.
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Hugh, sorry.
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Sorry.
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The you mentioned the strangle is the intentional strangling of your operations, and it was a little unclear to me exactly who you were saying was doing that.
Intention OK, I I thought I thought that indirectly answered through through the fuel you you you have a siege imposed on Gaza.
It is declared, it is stated, it is assumed.
Now the problem is that because of the seeds, we end up with no food, no medicine, no water.
It's I tell you, it's so heartbreaking to be in a situation where people have been so quickly stripped from their dignity and they start to beg for water.
That the only thing when I visited the school already a week ago and today the situation is becoming worse.
Children in this school were pleading only for water and a loaf of bread.
That's what we are talking about.
This for me is totally man made and this can be addressed if there is a political will to address it.
Thank you very much.
I go now to Ian Heberman, Tagesh Spiegel and other German newspapers.
Yeah, you, you have to use your mic.
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Otherwise, people at home cannot hear.
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First of all, could you describe the cooperation between ANRA and Hamas before the current conflict and now during the conflict in Gaza?
And secondly, on the hatred issue, The former head of the ANRA office in Gaza, Mr Shmala has said recently in an interview that about 5% of books in Anra school were, I quote, problematic in terms of the content IE anti-Semitic or racist or glorification of violence.
Could you comment on this?
I think this doesn't really square up with what you have said earlier.
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We have different categorisation.
First of all, these are not on our school.
These books, these are books from the host country.
So when it comes to Gaza and to the West Bank is Jerusalem.
These are the books of the curriculum provided by the Palestinian Authority.
So anyone on the Palestinian Authority jurisdiction has to whether you are UNRWA, public school, private school, church school, use the textbook of the Palestinian Authority.
Then we as UNRWA are going through every every pages.
We have a team going through every page just to look at if there is something which could be problematic.
Now when Mr Schmander say 5% problematic, he has not said 5% of glorification of terrorism or anti-Semitism, he has said 5% where the UN has to look at and provide guidance or look at if it is conformed to UNESCO value and then make a determination of what do we do with this material.
Now, more than 90% of the issues are issues related to the different narrative between the Israeli narrative and the Palestinian narrative, for which the United Nation and the international community has its own narrative.
We talk about occupation, we talk about the West Bank, East Jerusalem.
We are not talking about anything else.
The Palestinians sometimes have a different narrative.
There's really a different one.
But part of the problematic issue, Mr Shmade is mentioning our primary issue for which the United Nation has an answer, and we provide the necessary guidance.
For example, people say the State of Israel does not appear on our map.
No, the first thing we are putting on our website and instruction of the teaching is when you have a mapper, you will have the map with all the countries mentioned in the region.
That's our position.
It might not be the position some would like or vice versa.
And that's a UN position.
Secondly, we had a problem related to age appropriateness.
We believe that some material should not be taught if you are 8 years old, but should be taught if you are 12 or 14 years old.
So this is also what we qualify as being problematic.
There have been one example until now for which we indeed ended up by saying this is crossing the line for the United Nation.
We cannot put it into the context where because we also tried to promote critical thinking in our school.
So everything has to be put into context.
But there have been one or two issues extremely well known, extremely well documented, which even came out from the study commissioned by the EU with the Eckhart Institute in in Germany.
And and there is one or two issues for which we have been clear it will not be taught in our school and we have given the instruction accordingly.
So the 5% are not 5% related to what you indicated.
The second question, sorry, the first question was what your cooperation with Thomas before?
Well, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't know what you mean by cooperation or no cooperation.
the United Nation is very clear there is a no contact policy when it comes to political engagement.
So there is no political engagement with Amas before and even less after because they are not, you know, always here.
And the only cooperation we do have is a pure operational one.
For example, if you enter into the Gaza Strip, at one point you would have a checkpoint which is manned by the Hamas.
So it's purely technical that if you enter whoever enter de facto will have a need to have an authorisation to enter in together like anywhere else.
So how I wouldn't talk about cooperation.
We have a technical operational relation because we have operated in an environment which was under the which is, which was under the control.
We will have a technical relation with whoever has the control to access civilian that's in any type of situation.
Otherwise the choice is what would be the choice.
The choice would be not to be present.
Thank you very much.
Mohammed, Aslan and Aduluan to the Turkish News Agency.
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Thank you for taking my question.
My question about will be about.
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You know, humanitarian aid entering Gaza from Rafa crossing in a very limited way and doesn't meet the needs.
Egyptian official announced that the Rafa crossing never.
Closed and Israel prevented the.
Passage of eight is Israel constantly not only preventing.
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Limiting the volume of 8.
Passing through Rafa.
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What is the situation?
On the ground, thank you so much.
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Before the war, this war, there were about 500 trucks a day crossing in together, among them 100.
From the broader humanitarian community response, I just want to remind that before the war already half 2/3 of the population depended on food assistance by both on one WFP and that we collectively provided 50% of the calorie needs of this population.
Now we are six weeks into the war and I guess in average if we look at since the beginning and what came in, we had 5050 trucks a day, so 10% hardly of what used to come in to Gaza.
At a time where the needs were of a different nature.
So indeed the current system in place, it's a system which is geared to fail unless there is a political will to let aid.
And maybe it will.
There is now finally a resolution of the Secretary Council.
But we need unhindered, we need meaningful and non conditional human turn assistance in the Gaza Strip.
That's what we need, and we are far from that for the time being.
Thank you very much, Gabriella Sotomayor, processor, Mexican Media.
Thank you very much.
Sorry, yes, it's on.
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OK, so Israel used to criticise Hamas for using schools as military bases.
So now according to what you say, your information, they are doing the same.
So according to these reports that you mentioned, do you have any idea of how many schools are occupied by the the military?
And also another question, if may I, you mentioned a communication blackout.
So this will also be a news blackout.
We are getting less and less fresh information from the ground.
The Who does not have a communication with its staff.
So if you can comment on this situation, it looks like Israel wants to erase some part of the story somewhere somehow.
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On on the first question, I cannot elaborate much more.
I'm just saying I received reports and this is deeply, deeply disturbing.
Now they are still report.
They have not been fully verified.
They are on social media and this is definitely a source of concern.
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I don't have all this information at this stage.
The the communication blackout.
We had one, I think the first time was 2-3 weeks ago and you might remember that the day after the blackout, they were group of 100 of people who basically went into our warehouse and took whatever was available in the warehouse.
The little basically we had and these are signs of situation when you have a blackout and you cannot communicate with anyone anymore.
Already that there is the conflict is ongoing, you have no electricity, you miss everything, you're not close to a relative.
That's trigger and fuel even more the anxiety and the panic.
And I also do believe that this can provoke or accelerate the last remaining civil order that we have in the Gaza Strip.
And if this completely breakdown, we will have difficulties to operate in an environment where you do not have a minimum of order.
So and then it has all the consequences and impact you just described.
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Our team will not be able to communicate with each other.
So it will also make, if the blackout remains, our response even more complicated.
So the hindrance will not just be the lack of fuel, but the hindrance would also be the lack of ability to properly communicate.
But if the fuel come, we would expect or I would expect that that we will have a resumption of communication services.
It does not help anyone to have a situation of total *** in in the Gaza Strip.
Jamie Key to an Associated Press.
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Thank you for coming to see us.
The, I have several questions, but the, the, the, the basic ones are first of all, what are the prospects of other types of deliveries of, of aid.
I'm talking about seaborne or possibly European Union involvement or from, from for delivering the needed assistance for, for Gaza.
That's my first question.
My second question is about the level of communications that you have with Israeli authorities, given the criticism that they have had of UNRWA over the years.
Are the channels of communication open with them?
And then thirdly, I'd just like to go back to your response to Nina's question because I really wasn't clear.
You made a couple of references to reports about weapons being found in schools.
Could you be really specific about that or where are those reports coming from?
Are those from official sources?
You mentioned social media for the reference on, on about Israeli forces in UN compounds.
So could you please be very specific about that And and above all, who is responsible for putting those weapons there is that is that armed groups?
Is that military forces?
Who who is who put those weapons there?
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Al al alternative from the crossing of Rafa.
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The best one is opera.
It's it would be efficient.
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But Karamsalam used to process 500 trucks a day.
You have all the inspection capacity and you had all the motus operandi to operate between the trucks coming in and the trucks picking up inside.
So yes, it could be alternative, but I don't see any alternative which could be as quick and as efficient as the the crossing the sea will require and possibly a kind of a harbour.
So the harbour is in Gaza, it's not in the South.
I'm sure that everything is technically doable, but it will take time.
So I I don't see how it can be a substitute to what could be used today for the immediate response.
Maybe the medium term, yes, but immediately I, I, I, I don't think so.
Level of communication.
We are constantly, constantly in contact with the Israeli authority.
I would our colleagues in Gaza, it's AI would you know every movement is the, the conflicted.
So we have constant operational cooperation with the Israeli and we have also regular engagement not only at the operation level, but also at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
So our communication channel are completely, completely open and and the issues are raised in full transparency.
Now again on the report and I don't have much more to add than what I have said at this stage.
I'm just saying that I start to see appearing on my desk, it's only about the north, it's only about the north.
It's not about the South, the north.
We are not present since the day we have been asked to move from Gaza City to the South.
So obviously I do not know or we cannot control our premises the same way than when we used to be present.
And so who is behind what and how has it's been brought and so on are question for me.
Difficult to answer at this stage, but it's disturbing to hear that it would be could be used.
Thank you very much.
I I see lots of other hands, but I'm told that Mister Lesarini's got the time for three more questions.
And I have on my list the Swiss television, radio, television writers annually.
So I ask for your intelligence.
I go to Benjamin Lewis Radio.
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I just wanted to clarify on the fuel.
Could you confirm nothing has come in since that one?
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And secondly, I'm wondering how you plan to follow up on staff deaths there are.
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Routes given that UN workers and humanitarian workers in general enjoy protections.
Is there anything?
That you can do.
Are you pursuing those options?
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Why not?
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The first question is straightforward.
No, we haven't received any fuel since the only truck we received yesterday.
On the second question we, I, I don't, I don't know yet what will be the avenue.
There will be discussion within the UN.
There is absolutely no doubt that even sometimes member of the Secretary Council, I mean proposing possible Ave no decision has been taken yet.
The last time UNAWA that was not the DESH of the staff, but the UNAWA was targeted in the Gaza striper was during the casted operation in 2009.
The big warehouses and they have at that time there have been a board of inquiry which has been put in place and which came with recommendation and also a demand for compensation, compensation.
I think I'm, I'm told, I'm sorry, Yuri, I know you've been waiting on the platform, but I really have to stop here.
I'm told unfortunately, Mr Ladzarini really has to go.
So thank you very much for everyone, for all your questions and thanks to Commissioner General Ladzarini for coming and briefing you.
And please come back anytime.
We we are always happy to have you here briefing the journalist in Geneva.
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